so, now that i am out for good, which bible should i read?
there is no way i will read the wt one..so i still want to have a relationship with god but don't know how to choose a bible.
it is very hard to dewired yourself and ,sometimes i feel that i don't have a relationship with him.the what ifs come and go still.last night i was up all night reading and researching , can't shake off the shock still to know ttatt.
I have more than 100 versions with me, and one is not better than the other. Hence which one you select does not matter! Becuase our Heavenly Father is not interested in what you believe; but what you do--whether you are good to yourself and to others (Mathew 7:12, 21-23).
Hence ready any Bilble--all Bibles have got Mathew 7:12, and 21, 23 correctly translated--that's all what you need.
hello ,i am a jw,been in the "truth " for about 6 years.i have to be very careful because i know the witnesses monitors sites and report to the elders ,i know cause that is what my blood sister does,she spends hours trying to find apostates in the closet.i know stuped.. so this is my situation.i have known about jw almost all my life and heard that only them have the truth,lots of my family are in it.i was the one taking too long to baptize ,i knew it was expected from me.and i always had a need to make ppl like me .so i took the dip.i started to notice that there are lots of jws that belong to little groups.i wanted friendship so bad and at the time had a need o tell ppl about my horrible childhood traumas i guess i was not over it yet,and needed some to lisent since i had drove my spouse nuts already .what happend this ppl pretend to want to be close to me so they can know all my business and then tell everyone at the hall.then you realize uhhh,they never confided their personal stuff to me.is like a game " you can tell me your stuff,but do not expect me to keep it to myself and do not think i will tell you my dirty laundry.a lot of mind games.. so i was alone ,invisible ,i still can't believe i put up with so much !
i can't wright not even half of what i when through.i feel paranoic now.so i came across a youtube video by jwstruggle and blow my mind ,now i can't stop researching,my spouse is not a jw,and is very shock too.so i decided that i want to fade,i guess it won't be so hard since the sis and brothers did not had a close relationship with me.i have kids and i suffer from pts ,anxiety attacks,panick attacks and severe depression.i moved to the next town of my hall,so i have change hall too.i have not been to my new hall,and wanted to know,will the elders in my old hall contact the elders in my new hall just to see if i am attending?..
my spouse told me " i will tell them i am not letting you go" "and "i found out that your liars!
Dear Freethinking76,
Just press Control + Alt + Delete—that is all what you need to do with your life now.
You were part of JWs, because in that mind-set, you deserved to be there. It is like saying a people would have a Governement what they deserve.
Now you have understood that to continue with JWs is a waste. Do not waste time any more. There is no key to happiness, because it is not locked. When you change your thinking, you experience happiness. Similarly, stop thinking that you were a part of JWs. That was a nightmare—that is over. You are NOW and HERE!
God is not interested in what you believe. (Mathew 7:12, 21-23). Be good to yourself and to others—that is all what is needed to copy and thus please our Heavenly Father—Mark 10:18
an aussie friend of mine once summed life up in this phrase:.
we are all food for worms.. .
so, now outside the wt mindset, what is your view on life purpose?.
There are three things that we all have in common:
Awareness - of ourselves and others
Relationships - the sharing and exchange of energy with others
Creativity - the ability to produce thoughts, ideas, concepts and feelings and express them.
The purpose of our life is nothing more than living life itself
1) to be self-aware (awareness),
2) to be creative, to express ourselves to our highest potential (creativity)
3) to exchange the energy of love with those around us (relationships).
These characteristics of life require action, a costume (physical body) through which to express ourselves and a stage on which to act. The physical world provides the stage on which we can move, bring to life, create, relate and express all that is within us. For each of us the possibilities are infinite.
The moment we take birth in a physical form, we are constantly doing one of three things: acting, reacting, or interacting - sometimes all three together. In this way, each one is free to make a MEANING for his life. Interestingly, some scriptures beautifully sum up this, saying:
--be fruitful (unfold yourself to your full potential)
--cherish and nourish one another
When you do the above, you will find life becoming more and more MEANINGFUL!
my birthday isn't until the end of july but yesterday i got my first birthday gift in the mail.
my best friend (stubborn disbeliever) sent me my gift early.
i know what it is, but seeing it all wrapped up and knowing on my birthday i can open it...it really struck a cord with me.
Wish you a very happy birth day!
Birth is a miracle happening in front of us, hence something to be remembered and celebrated!
Your feeling echoes the feelings of all of us!
i know there are so many heartbreaking stories on here where people have suffered at the hands of tyrant elders.
i have my own stories too.
now looking back i realize that those type of elders probably had authentic assclown personality syndrome to begin with and being in a position of leadership just made it worse.. .
I do not think any good people exist there. For example, who on earth will not know how to handle the simple case such as given below:
You donated land to the Kingdom Hall. After decades, congregation feels the need to move to larger facility. You want to REPURCHASE the land you gave to the kingdom hall as it is adjacent to your house so that land should not fall into the hands of some unknown people such as anti-social elements. Elders wrote to the Branch Committee. Branch Committee flatly rejected the offer, and directed the local body of elders to put an advertisement in the newspapers so that the land can be sold to the highest bidder.
You take up the matter with the Governing Body citing scriptural predence on the matter and force them to sell the land back to you! If some goodness exists there, when they no longer need a gift you gave them, how can they say “no” when you suggest you want to repurchase it? But this is what happened to our family! Though it did happen, we could not believe even now. Who will do such a thing?
Now you try the same with a worldly man. You gifted something, and now he wants to dispose as he no longer needs it. But you want to buy back. Will he ever say "No" to you. In all the probalities, he will return it freely and joyfully.
does the universe have a collective consciousness?.
at the sub nuclear level of reality...we are all one.
at the core basis of the universe is a single universal field of intelligence.
Every one has consciousness. Though my consciousness is different from yours, my consciousness is a consciousness like yours. It is meant to just exist, experience and to express, yet not meant to know how it came into existence! Consciousness is the mother of all mysteries. And it will continue to be so!
i know i rarely if ever read the magazines that i used to promote and place with householders (besides the watchtower study).
hypocritical no?.
I was reading every word of the magazne and used to share with fellow Witnesses to my own surprise--to know that they never bother to read it!
the bible is written in classical hebrew (there are many other types and older types).
yhwh is a classical hebrew sentence that roughly means 'he wills it, and it happens'.
the hebrew language has such mechanisms for saying things in a shortened form, much like today cpr, rsvp, vip etc..... adonai is also classical hebrew, but its a word.... it means 'lord' and 'master'.. .
JWs' careless translation of the name Jehovah as “HE CAUSES TO BECOME” with no object indirectly makes Him responsible for everything that happens anywhere, because, happening is nothing but becoming. Then how can he feel CHALLANGED by Satan as He Himself is behind any becoming—including an angel BECOMING a satan? Again why take action against many BECOMING sinners through one man’s sin, as He Himself is behind all becoming? It goes on and on. See the havoc one careless translation has brought in!
No wonder Jesus prefered to address God as FATHER, which can NEVER been misunderstood by anyone.
the bible is written in classical hebrew (there are many other types and older types).
yhwh is a classical hebrew sentence that roughly means 'he wills it, and it happens'.
the hebrew language has such mechanisms for saying things in a shortened form, much like today cpr, rsvp, vip etc..... adonai is also classical hebrew, but its a word.... it means 'lord' and 'master'.. .
This is an interesting situation--"an apostate" site has more truth than the JWs.
Here truth comes also with freedom
it,s simple, i can not remember crap from my previous life.. the wife told me today if you come back in the next life, please.
take some science classes.. if i could remember a small percentage of my life today, just a little.
bit, man would it make a difference.. in school i would be 100% nerd, geek, book worm.
You don’t have to believe it as it is a fact to Jesus Christ. (Mathew 11:14) He did not made it compulsory saying: “If you WANT to accept” and “those who have ears, let them hear.” Because, for this to exist, in spite any one's belief to the contrary.
Another thing: Remembrance is NOT the criterion. Criterion is Mathew 12:35 and Galatians 6:7 which mean if you have not reaped the consequence of what you did, you have to come back to do so.
When someone breaks a queue, every one responds in the same way, saying “he is WRONG.” This shows everyone has in-built knowledge of good and bad. No remembrance of the past incident is required.
Hence the key is whether you are willing to do Mathew 7:12 or not, which is termed as the whole law and the prophets. You have to come back until you learn to do this law joyfully. Once you successfully do that, then you move to the next phase. (John 5:24)
